Depp and Mann clashed on the set? Say it isn’t so! You mean this sort of thing happens? (sarcasm) Why wasn’t this all in the news like CB’s was? Media outlets…can’t figure them out.

I heard that the executive’s were looking at cost to fly people to France, so maybe CB will only appear just once. I’m sad now.

he only is a support role in this movie! but if it’s true,he ‘ s going to be THE STAR of festival Cannes!

If he’s OPENING and CLOSING at Cannes, then doesn’t that make him the HOST?

Somebody ought to tell them…..:)

every one had or will have a clash at work one day! the trouble with CB tirade is became public and in audio ! for gossip people,the actors must be perfect because they win too many money!

@Jersey
Simply put, it wasn’t recorded. Now sometimes I wish it would be and ended in the net just to show people things like that are common while working on movies set. But of course, CB not involved (never again!).

Funny. I don’t remember where now but I read someone talking about CB (defending him) and this person said something like “he didn’t loose it with Michael Mann, and that is real proof that he doesn’t have a bad temper”. And the person really sounded like someone who works in the movie bussiness. And someone that worked with Mann before….possibly in Public Enemies.

@Lilian

Hmmm…sounds like Micheal Mann may be a difficult director to deal with. I’m glad that person defended CB with that comment.

@Carrie

LOL

@Caro
Yes… those shallow people who love gossips think that celebrities ought to be saints, and i’ve heard many saying that they should be because of the money that they win. Weird. And they do love to hate and point fingers don’t they?

Stephen King has made a short story about the band of John Dillinger that I’ve recently read and liked a lot. The atmosphere, the aesthetic, the good people who sadly belongs to armed bands that actually kill people… and Chris as one of the characters. Everything mentioned’s gonna make of this an awesome film.

CB and Terminator salvation wouldn’t go at the Cannes festival,it was only a rumour! sniff!!!!

Depp and Mann clashed on the set? Say it isn’t so! You mean this sort of thing happens? (sarcasm) Why wasn’t this all in the news like CB’s was? Media outlets…can’t figure them out.

@Jersey
Depp wasn’t recorded on tape. The set was well protected, cast and crew were all professional, the director was Michael Mann!

@Everybody
CB in Public Enemies has a supporting role, I don’t think he’ll go to Cannes for this movie but who knows.
As for Terminator there are a lot of rumors (in my opinion this movie is a bit too much surrounded by rumors) about its Cannes precence. Actually there are too many rumors about this movie!

@Elena

Agreed. CB’s recording was something that doesn’t usually happen. But I’m sure this sort of thing goes on all the time.

Terminator does have a lot of rumors circling. But, I guess that goes with big budget films, especially when you have an over zealous director that loves to talk. Don’t get me wrong, MCG is excited about the movie, I would be too, but he needs to calm down just a bit, and stop giving out spoilers.

Terminator is getting a lot of play. A lot. And it’s working. People are getting extremely hyped up about it. I’m one of them. (smile) I couldn’t sit down watching the new trailer last night. I can’t help but wonder, (and I really hope I am wrong on this) that the leak of the audio was done by Warner Bros. (they do own TMZ), for publicity at CB’s expense, just to bring more recognition to the movie.

I don’t get the warm and fuzzies with that….someone prove me wrong please.

@Jersey

I thought the same thing already after reading some posts in movie sites saying things like: “I didnt think Bale could pull Connor out properly, but after that tape I changed my mind because hes a badass”…

So I am thinking that too, that stinking WB released the tape to promote the movie. Disgusting WB! I hope CB stops working with this company!!

@Lilian

You’re not helping Lilian! You are supposed to stop me from thinking that! LOL I’m glad someone else was thinking that same thing. I thought I was just being biased. But, I have been thinking that for a long time about WB and how they could have done CB this way. I feel the same way you do about the company. But, I’ve been reading on related posts about Terminator, and people are becoming sympathetic towards the rant thing after seeing the trailer. They are now understanding the intensity that went on and what CB had to do to create in his acting to make this movie good for his fans and the fans of the Terminator franchise. That’s a good thing. In a way, he seems to be slowly becoming vindicated in sorts. Probably not to all, but to many. There are always going to be some sourpusses in the bunch.

Wait, WB produced some of the best movies in the last few years (The Dark Knight, The Prestige and Batman Begins are all WB, just to mention some of them with Christian in). I think that you are right, it’s probably somebody at WB that leaked that infamous audiotape, it probably means that somebody at WB assigned at the Terminator project felt that this movie needed some buzz to be properly promoted. That doesn’t mean all WB departments work like that. I think WB suffered bad publicity too, lately I’ve read a lot of criticism towards it after this “rant story”. Maybe he/she thought CB wasn’t famous or strong enough to carry out this movie or, as I personally think, the problem was the discontent McG bred among fans. Maybe they thought Christian needs some gossip to become a more familiar name. You know, people sometimes can be very weird. It’s like “all publicity is good publicity”.

“There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about”. from The picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.

Maybe the person who leaked the audiotape is a Wilde fan.

@Elena

Well, I guess you do have a point there, too. WB has taken a hit with this also. But I hate that CB took the brunt. I guess whoever leaked it felt that he could take it and his career wouldn’t suffer. If this was their intent. Shame though. Good point about MCG, too. I never thought about him. Thanks for bringing this view up.

Oh well, whatever the case, whoever leaked it should have left well enough alone, and let the movie stand on it’s own merits. This rant thing is starting to die down, thank goodness, but can you believe there are people out there who are still trying to bring it back up? Probably because the Terminator movie is getting such rave reviews right now, and CB is looking so good in it. People are filled with so much hate and jealousy. I pray the movie does well, just to show those people that they were wrong.

@Elena
Loved the reference! I love Wilde and loved The Picture of Dorian Gray book!!! But I don’t agree to that saying, not in this case anyway! Sometimes it might be true, but I wouldn’t use it to justify sullying a good man’s name just to make him more known.

@Jersey
I really hope what Elena said is true… otherwise I would be really happy to see CB pulling off of the Terminator and Batman franchises, refusing to repeat the roles. oooh WB executives would go crazy, cry, pull their hairs out, jump through their office windows….Hehe. Talk about killing the cash cow, the golden egg goose.

@both
You know, after that description of what happened (with the DP being insolent and eating hotdog and etcetera) I would love to see someone put on the internet a behind the scene movie of what really happened. It would certainly help CB. It only confirmed what I already thought… the DP is a complete douchebag. I would have shoved the hotdog… well, you know where… alongside a bottle of coke and a bag of fries to complete the snack!

@Jersey and Elena
I ended up in a blog where people in Chicago could post daily about the Public Enemies shootings. So there were posts about meetings with casts, where the actors were working etc. But the blog looks more like a Johnny Depp’s fan site than anything else. Anyway, reading the comments I could discern something interesting…. the way the majority perceived the actors based on brief encounters with no contact with them and the more accurate oppinions based on actual contact.

About CB: A lot of people considered him rude, a jerk, just because he didn’t looked, smiled and waved at them when they called or shouted his name. They complained of his seriousness and lack of attention to them, and that he didn’t talk and gave autographs. So they concluded that he’s a jerk by that…. But the posts of people that actually talked to him were quite different. One guy said that he went to a hotel where CB was going to work. So he arrived early, saw CB entering the hotel already in costume, but CB didn’t wave or looked at the fans. This guy and other 3 people waited until 2 a.m.. When CB was leaving he talked, took pictures and gave autographs with/to all of them. So the guy praised him saying he’s kind and even stressed the fact that CB didn’t only signed his own name but asked their names and dedicated the autographs to them… And someone said that he probably wasn’t givin much attention to fans because of an encounter with a “rambunctious” fan wanting an autograph that happened earlier. Other guy said his lack of humour there had a name: Cotillard. Humm… never heard about her, is she a diva or something?

JDepp: Everyone praised him for stopping and talking briefly with fans, being kind and signing autographs. Well, they were already biased but this was really his usual behavior. For me it is quite a change to Depp. I remember that 5 years ago (more or less) I always heard of him the same way people talk about CB now. Depp didn’t like fame and wasn’t too friendly to fans and paps…. I wonder now if the movie star status went to his head or if he just learned to deal with it and the annoying people (or both).

There was a post that I found really funny though… it was a guy that lives on obtainning and selling autographs. He praised CB, but what really was interesting were his comments on JD. He said JD went to a famous restaurant where he ordered alone six bottles of wine. He said that JD left the place “completely wasted” and was rude to him. He said that he met JD before years ago and that “he wasn’t the same anymore”, that he used to be nice. Well, give JD a discount…. he was drunk! I found it funny because it was a completely different view, but seemed like a closer encounter than all the others…

What is more enlightening (or am I wrong?) is the fact that apparently JD went often to popular places (usually restaurants). People were always keeping track of that. I never read anything about the other actors, including CB. Could be that they were just really biased, or that JD was really the party boy and the others preferred their privacy?

@Lilian

Nice post. Seems to me, that people are generally biased towards Johnny Depp for the most part. The females that is. The males I’ve gathered from what I’ve read, sometimes have a different view of him. The males think that he picks strange roles not manly ones and is just strange in general. The females breathe, eat, sleep, Depp. He can do no wrong in their eyes. They are not just fans, they are fanatical fans. I found thru some of my readings, that the fan base for Depp can be hateful toward CB for whatever reason. I think they feel threatened. Just my opinion. CB is an excellent actor, hands down. Not saying that Depp isn’t, but I think CB can demand the screen better. But, that’s just me. Also, CB is a better looking actor. He can change his appearance at the drop of a hat. He looks good in any character that he plays. The same can not be said with Depp. If you look at the HD Trailer of Public Enemies, Depp looks extremely old in the face when they do close-ups. No amount of make-up is going to cover that up. Bale looks drop dead gorgeous. Even in the close-ups. CB is threatening to Depp, and those fanatical fans of Depp will say and try anything to discredit and actor such as CB because of it. People are strange in that way. I also get the impression that CB and Depp did not bond like Russell and CB did. Depp is a weird guy. Depp is getting older now, and he probably does like the limelight a little bit more, CB could care less. He likes his privacy. CB is a down to earth type of guy, who is not into the “movie star” thing. Give him a dirt bike and he is happy.

As far as CB signing autographs: I always say this when people on other blog sites have that to say about CB being an a** about signing autographs. He was the only one from The Dark Knight that stood out there during the premiere for 30 freaking minutes….after the people kept telling him to come in….to sign autographs for the fans. There is a time and a place for everything. He doesn’t have to stop and sign autographs as soon as he slips his underwear on. CB does it all the time. Depp probably never does it. There are plenty of videos on youtube showing him signing autographs during his breaks from shooting public enemies, so those people on those sites are just fanatical fans of Depp and talking out of the sides of their neck.

And while these same people are “praising” Depp, I also remember that same Depp who stayed in trouble with the law constantly. So, he is not so sweet and innocent as they like to portray him as being. Not that I should bring that up. But, I did. (Sticking tongue out at fanatical fans)

(…I would have shoved the hotdog… well, you know where… alongside a bottle of coke and a bag of fries to complete the snack!…)

LOL!! Picture this….the audio tape…CB is cursing this DP out….CB calms down…asks politely for help to strap his gun hollster back on…the ignorant DP mouths off again…CB tells him he is going to rip him a new one….scuffle ensues….there is silence….you hear a scream…..the hotdog, fries, and bottle coke disapears into the wild beyond….

)

@Lilian – I saw some of those bloggers show up at another website and they honestly came off as pretty childish to me. In any case, I think this is something all actors go through – being accused of being unfriendly towards people – and I don’t think they should be given much attention. Christian is a pretty big star now so, sadly, this kind of attention is to be expected.

There definitely does seem to be a bias about Johnny in general, which I find rather amusing for the reason you gave: pre-Pirates of the Carribean, he was quite a pariah in Hollywood circles. In fairness, I think he’s a fairly nice guy personally but looking at these people fawning over him when they were probably bashing him years before is interesting.

@Lilian
I don’t agree with Oscar Wilde too. And I’m in NO way trying to justify who did that to CB, don’t get me wrong! But I think that the person that leaked this audiotape, maybe, agreed with Wilde.
Maybe WB already took action against him/her, we’ll never know. Let’s hope!

You know, Christian Bale is a method actor, or at least he’s known as being a method actor, so if fans met him while he was in character (as they say he was in costume), it’s pretty normal that he didn’t even have a glance at them. He needs to be focused on his role. As a matter of fact when he’s not working he signed autographs and was very kind to fans. I also think that sometimes fans can very obsessive, crazy and stressful.

I forgot, sorry Angelic

I thought the same thing about the DP being insolent and eating hotdog , and I agree, I’d love to see his name slandered on internet as they did with CB name. I know, I know, this is a very bad thing to say. But maybe, even though the public blame was all on Christian, in the business, among persons involved in the work, he’ll get what he deserves. I think he’ll have some problems getting a new job, he’ll have to change his attitude.
I ended up thinking that the DP was a jerk and that Christian gave him a good telling-off, and you know what, he was even too soft. If someone would treat me with so much disrespect as this DP treated CB, I would have been fiercer than him. As I already told you, I can kill with words and when I’m angry I say many sharp things. Like most people of impulsive temperament, CB had a quick reaction of feeling, and after having stormed he started to regret. He was very clear about this in his apology, but after reading the description of the whole story (supposing that it’s the truth) I think this DP guy deserved that. OK, I know, I’m a bad girl!

@Lilian, Elena

I just asked a very simple question on a blog….

Why? Very simple question, right? I’ll explain.

I was reading this post and these people were debating about the new batman project that may be coming up. All of a sudden, these ignorant people start blogging about CB’s rant, and how he isn’t worthy to walk on the planet with them. Of course, true to form, a fight ensues between the true fans and the ignorant. Hence, comes my question….why?

I proceeded to ask the simple question to these ignorant self righteous low lifes, the pertinent question of why, if they thought that Christian Bale was such the scum of the earth and wasn’t worthy to grace their presence….why the heck were they blogging about him? Why were they doing a name search for him over the internet? When they turn the computer on, his name doesn’t magically appear on the computer. They obviously have to type it in. If they hate him so much, common sense would dictate that they wouldn’t search for him. I don’t search for actors I don’t like. I don’t search for Sean Penn, or Josh Brolin. That happened at another site I was on, where people were just intelligently talking about one of CB’s movies and then here comes the idiots! DUMB A**!!

Okay….I had to share that with you…I feel better now. I need a Diet Sierra Mist.

@ lilian
i read an old post about “3:10 for Yuma”:there said CB in work is very very serious but outside nice with people , he’s very close with his family(his wife and child).He do his job(better he can)then go home!
on FLICKR.com,there is also a figurant guy who was on set “public enemies”! very interesting!

on flickr.com,it’s tadpho911 and ryanwiz who worked on set “public enemies”!

@Caro
I searched but could only find this: http://ryanwiz.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/they%E2%80%99re-gonna-put-me-in-the-movies-part-one/ and some pictures of him and the set, but nothing about CB. The other guy I found his flickr page but nothing about public enemies.
Could you please tell us what you found? You made me extremely curious. Please!!

@Jersey
I absolutely agree with you. CB is way better than Depp, both in looks and in talent. I’m not saying Depp is bad, but he’s not as good as CB. CB is great and is underrated, Depp is good and is overrated.

I became a fan of Depp watching Jumpstreet but gradually my adoration for him waned. I still like him and think he’s a good actor but … you nailed it when you called him weird. Some of the characters in his movies are so weird they are actually ridiculous, like Edward Scissorhands for example. Others were portrayed as weird and ridiculous (and gay) like Willie Wonka. And I got pissed with the way Jack Sparrow was accepted. Depp is talented and he showed this in serious movies but people recognised his talent with that? Its a funny character but its far from being an icon like people made it. Just because he portrayed the character as a drunk idiot… He never deserved to be considered for an Oscar for that. And about his personal life… you’re also right. He had many problems with the law and people forgot all about it. He had many problems where he became quite violent in fits of rage, and apparently had problems with excess of alcohol, drugs and smoke. He apparently still has with smoke and alcohol…. He’s far from a saint. This was one of the reasons I am not a fan of him anymore. In my oppinion the movie star status went up into his head, bloated his ego. And he changed after Pirates, for the worse.

CB “…can change his appearance at the drop of a hat. He looks good in any character that he plays. The same can not be said with Depp.” Absolutely. One (great) difference between those two is that Depp can change his appearance considerably, but at the cost of a great ammount of make-up (think about Edward, Jack, Sweeney Todd, Wonka, etc.) and costumes. CB can change even more with no make-up, he does that with his own body, with behavior and accent. Thats real talent!

“I also get the impression that CB and Depp did not bond like Russell and CB did.” Me too, and in my oppinion the reasons are: Depp ego might be sky high now. CB is down to earth like you said and so is Crowe. CB and Crowe are really serious about their work and are method actors, really impersonating the character. Depp doesn’t do that, he improvises. I read Michael Mann comparing the two of them and he said CB stayed in character the whole day while Depp improvised everything. And I read Depp himself saying that he became an actor because “he thought it was an easy way of gainning money”. So they have totally different views. CB takes it very seriously and really loves the work, and doesn’t care much about money. Crowe, I think, is like CB, thats why they got along so well and became friends. Depp is really different, and thats why I am not his fan anymore….

You’re right about Depps fans. They are really fanatic, annoying and mostly women.
“I don’t search for actors I don’t like.” Me neither. I quoted Penn here but actually I dont like him nor Brolin for that matter. I think Penn is a good actor, but I dont like him in real life. Accidentally I read a lot of bad things about him. He appears to be a real douchebag (and Brolin too).

I really like the way you fiercely defend CB. Go get them girl!!! Just don’t get stressed by it!! Those morons with low oppinions and intellects don’t deserve that.

@Miranda
You gave a good definition of those bloggers…. childish. Really. And I think it also defines those that accuse actors of being jerks just because they don’t like public attention or cant always give the public the attention that they want.

“…pre-Pirates of the Carribean, he was quite a pariah in Hollywood circles.” “…these people fawning over him …were probably bashing him years before is interesting.” Yes, its really funny and interesting. And they must have short memories.

@Elena
No harm done! I didn’t mean that you justified it, I meant whoever leaked the damn tape. I hope this person loses his/her job and can’t find another one in the movie industry. Never again.

@Everyone
I’m curious. Of course everyone here is fan of CB, but who do you admire besides him? As for me:

Actors: The first 3 would be: Bale, Russell Crowe, Edward Norton.
I also love (in no particular order) Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Geoffrey Rush, Denzel Washington, Kenneth Branagh, Anthony Hopkins, Leonardo DiCaprio (recently; don’t like his earlier works, including Titanic), Ken Watanabe (recently, Letters from Iwo Jima confirmed hes great for me), Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro. I also like a lot Liam Neeson, Matt Damon, Cillian Murphy and Tom Cruise.

Actresses: Cate Blanchett, Judi Dench, Twilda Swinton and Kate Winslet.

Well? And you?
And sorry Angelic, I know this is off topic…

I forgot Daniel Day-Lewis… how could I? I also love him….

@Lilian

(smile) You’re right I will defend CB fiercely! Yeah! (giggle) But, don’t worry, I won’t get stressed out, my keyboard just might blow up from overuse.

Boy you hit the nail right on the head with Depp. I agree with your reply. Depp certaintly was a “bad boy” of types wasn’t he? How the public do forget. And after reading your post, I admire CB even more. (smile) I was laughing at your description of Depp in Willy Wonka, I thought the same thing when I saw the movie. I was thinking, Willy Wonka wasn’t……..gay? Was he? LOL

Mmmm, actors that I admire, let’s see: Bale, Bale, Bale. How’s that? Just kidding.

Of course CB, but other actors that I admire are: Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Sean Connery, Ed Harris

My list is short, but I just love good acting.

@Jersey

LOL. I laughed a lot with the Wonka character, even his voice was so gay… Funny that I hear a lot of people saying that Jack Sparrow seems gay too. Didn’t think so before but after watching the movies again I kinda thought they were right… Jack looked slightly gay. LOL That’s problably why, like you said, men usually say he doesn’t pick manly roles. I wonder… is it the role per se or he plays it in a not-manly fashion? Cant remember a role where he was really manly, not even Sweeney Todd was.

Anyway, enough with Depp. Sean Connery and Ed Harris are great actors too, I adore both. Too bad that Connery retired for good… Well in the end I love good acting, like you said, thats why my list was so big. But the list is really shorter if I consider those actors that I will watch every movie that they make (and buy all the dvds). CB on top, of course.

I’m a bad girl….I posted on TMZ. But, I had a good reason…HONEST! It was the one about Michael Biehn or whatever his name is and some idiot posted this long post defending Biehn about what he said towards CB. Well, you guys know me. I was good until….I read further down into his post, and he said something about Biehn fighting CB and winning. THAT WAS IT! LOL! My keyboard started smoking and I started growling!

@lilian:
on photo set “public enemies”,it’s a photo by tadpho911 named “christian bale being primped”,see commentaries someone asks how he was on set!
on an IMDB forum about Public enemies,you also have a tiny blog about someone working on this set. He was figurant! He met CB and Billy Crudup !

@Lilian

Sean Connery has retired???? Say it isn’t so! Where the heck have I been?

You know I must have a thing about people’s eyes. CB’s eyes are gorgeous. (and everything else he has) What actually drew me to Ed Harris was his piercing baby blue eyes, and then I started watching his acting. He can really pull the character. I really liked his role in “The Rock”. Did I list Anthony Hopkins, I don’t think I did. I like him too.

I guess Depp is okay as an actor, but not one of my favorites. I would have to say the “pirates” movies were entertaining to me, but nothing more. When I watch a man on screen, I want him like CB. Let’s see some down and dirty manly stuff. Some sweat and muscle. Although, CB can cry, (he’s so believable) and that makes me cry, too, but he is a MAN. There is no doubt about that in his roles. Now with that said, didn’t Depp play a role when he was in a prison or something? That was an earlier role, I think, before he started getting the….. “Mr. Weird” roles.

@Caro

I’m loss. I tried to find it. Do you have a link to it?

@Jersey
I went to TMZ after reading your post… what a douchebag Biehn is… and if he was a good actor why he can’t find a job anymore? Not even with Cameron. And mind you, he practicaly only worked with Cameron. No …he definetly sucks. And how can so many people think he’s hot? UGH

I almost copied and pasted this:
“1. DP is famous for being hyper active person. He moves a lot, EVEN during scenes. This happened SEVERAL TIMES. 2. Bale couldn’t take it anymore. He was talking to Bryce wearing armour, machine gun in one hand, a puppet terminator is by his side. Two people is holding this puppet. . He is to believe that the puppet is actually a threatening being from the future. In that odd circumstances, he bares his feeling to Bryce’s character. 3. To make the above nonsense believable, he immersed himself IN THE SCENE, giving all out drama, for our viewieng pleasure. 4. Shane Hurlbut, well known as a hyperactive DP, interruptes the scene AGAIN by casually moving back and forth in front of the lights, IN THE MIDDLE OF A TAKE, hot dog in his hand. 5. Bale, JUST COULDN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE. He flipped. 6. Shane doesn’t apologize (that’s all Bale wanted, an acknowledgement that Shane was wrong). Shane instead talks back, with an attitude of a surf dude. “I was just fixing the lights, man… sorry, dude… take a minute geez, talk a walk bro..etc”, hot dog still in hand. 7. When Bale finnaly simmers down, he puts on a strap that holds his rifle to his chest, with the help of Tom. It came off during the rant. Bale’s ready to continue. 8. While Tom’s putting the strap, Bale is still talking (griping to himself mostly) looking down to the strap and rifle. He still complains. The mike still picks this up. But he wasn’t talking to anybody at this time. 9. Bale gripes further, �You don’t understand working with actors’. 10. Shane still in talk-back mode (you can hear Shane talking back all this time in the background, even the crew is thinking ’shut the F up Shane, it’s a rough night, we want to go home). Shane still refusing to acknowledge, says “No, what it is, is that I feel that the lights should…bla bla”. That was it. He says he was sorry before, but doesn’t acknowledge it in the next moment. Bale loses it. This is where he says “I’m gonna kick your eFfin ass.” 11. Shane apologizes again, but still talking back. The man doesn’t shut up. Hot dog in hand. 12. Bale admitted that he was wrong, but everyone on the set knew that Shane had it coming.) 13. Bale IS NOT a prima donna. His beef was with Shane only. Notice how he refers to his props person Tom with �please’ amidst all the temper towards Shane. 14. Everything is not a s it seems.”

on TMZ. I know it isn’t mine… do you think it would be proper? Boy I want to…

@ Caro

I remember reading a guy’s comment somewhere about him working as one of FBI crews back in June or July last year. He said very nice things about CB, i.e. CB always chatted with them during breaks, he told them a lot about the Dark Knight, even went on telling him he’s going to start filming Terminator Salvation soon (at that time TDK was not out yet). He also wrote that he had a very good 30 minutes one on one with CB. I forget where I read this comment, still looking for it again… I’ll post it here as soon as I find it.

Not sure if this is the same thing as you wrote above.

@ Jersey

You’re gonna love this post! Check this out… now don’t try to laugh and cry at the same time when you read this because I know you would

http://www.gohammond.com/blogs/parks_dept/?p=28

@ Lilian

I also think Depp is a bit weird… or probably because he mostly chose weird/eccentric characters to play with. Sometimes he’s just over the top and his characters do not feel or look real. But then I haven’t seen all his movies yet.

On the other hand, I watched a lot of CB movies by accident, not knowing it’s all the same guy. Enough said, on screen I always saw his characters, not himself as himself (if you know what I mean). That alone shows how good he is as an actor.

@Lilian

I would post it, I don’t think it matters who it came from. TMZ isn’t proper, so I wouldn’t worry about it, LOL. But, you know the TMZ crowd, they are ignorant dorks. Then again, I’m always up for a fight. (grin)

And yes, I agree. Michael Biehn is NOT good looking in my opinion. What or who are they looking at? Maybe I was looking at the wrong person. The one I was looking at, clearly was not HOT. Help me to understand.

I didn’t like the fact that people kept saying that he was so professional and that CB wasn’t. That’s a sore subject to me. If Biehn was so freaking professional, why the heck is he standing on the street talking to a gossip site like TMZ about a fellow actor? I’ll use your word….IDIOTS! I’ll tell you why…because they didn’t think he was worthy enough to put his tired acting self into this new installment of the Terminator movie, and he is a sore sport. People are still hating on CB because they are so jealous of him right now. They want his looks, his body, (mmmm as so many people do) his money, and his prestige in Hollywood. And all of this, CB still has, despite the rant thing. That’s why people keep bringing it up. They are jealous. Biehn wish he had it like Bale. Ok, I’m finished.

I was on a site last night, a public enemies site, where these Depp fans were literally attacking this fan of CB. It wasn’t an adult site, obviously, lot of teeny-boppers, judging by the comments. I know that some of CB fans can be fanatical but, good grief, these Depp fans were horrendus (sp?). From what I could gather, they attacked CB because of the rant thing, and the CB fan decided to bring up Depp’s past. Oh boy! The fight was on! They were saying some terrible things about CB. So bad, that it started to sound funny, because the stuff they were saying weren’t even making sense. I left this one alone, I must have been too sleepy. This one poster called the Depp fans on it, though, and told them that no matter what CB did, it isn’t nearly as bad as what Depp has done in the past, so they needed to chill. He/she will be attacked next. LOL

@Retno

Loved the link…Thanks! Yes, you guys know me well!! Some parts I was laughing, while other parts I got a little teary eyed. I would have fainted too! LOL All CB would of had to do was look at me. Don’t I sound like a fangirl?! What an experience he had! Lucky! Poor thing, though, he had the flu. He had nothing but nice things to say about CB, and I’m glad. Thanks again for the link, I enjoyed it.

Isn’t Depp supposed to play the Mad Hatter in the Alice and Wonderland flick?

One thing that I’ve noticed between the Depp and Bale comparison thing is…Depp’s fan base is mostly women, and most of those women are younger and adolescent, where as CB, and correct me on this if I’m wrong, his fan base consists of men and women of all structures. CB’s is more generalized. His fan base is stronger. I should post this on Depp’s fan base site, just to rile them up. (grin) I wouldn’t dare. LOL I’m so terrible.

Ok guys, I really didn’t know where to post this, but I was reading about Public Enemies, and someone on a blog post brought up a point that I didn’t think about. He said that casting Bale against Depp was a wrong move. Before you go up in arms, and start cussing, let me explain why he said this. It is actually a compliment to CB. A very nice one. He said that Depp was a good actor, but he felt that he was a bit too weak to pull off Dillinger in a starring role, and he thought that CB was too strong of an actor to be paired against Depp. He said that Mann should have cast a weaker or (nebbish) actor to play Purvis, as to not upstage Depp.

I don’t know….I took that as a nice compliment towards CB, and I wanted to share. I never heard anyone say that before.

@Jersey
I have heard it (I probably read something about that in a magazine, I can’t remember now), and indeed it is a compliment towards CB. This is fame/stardom (Depp) against charisma/strength (CB). They are both talented, but Christian Bale is stronger, he owns the scene. Depp is a good actor but (according to me) he’s more a celebrity and people runs to see his movies because of that not because of his talent. Moreover he’s good at playing those odd roles he perfectly impersonates in Burton’s films, or the eccentric Jack Sparrow, but I find it hard to watch him in a “real” character without thinking I’m watching Edward Scissorhands without makeup! Mann should have cast CB as Dillinger and Depp as Purvis but probably Mann thought Depp is too huge to play a supporting role. Besides he’s a perfect draw to audience. Miami Vice was unsuccessful and Mann needs a hit now.

@Retno
Thanks for the link, I adored it! It’s always nice to read about someone who actually met him. They always say the same thing: he’s a good guy with a big heart.

About CB: “… not knowing it’s all the same guy. Enough said, on screen I always saw his characters, not himself as himself (if you know what I mean). That alone shows how good he is as an actor.” I will quote you: Enough said. You nailed it.

About Depp: “Sometimes he’s just over the top and his characters do not feel or look real.” You nailed it again. They feel like caricatures don’t they?

@Caro
Thanks for the tip, I finally found it. Adored it, just like Retno’s.

@Jersey
“…he thought that CB was too strong of an actor to be paired against Depp.” Interesting, but to me it isn’t a surprise. I read something similar, not quite the same but… It was a review of someone who watched the rough/raw cut of the movie. This person said that CB was too strong of an actor to play such a small role. He/she said the character of Purvis was underdeveloped and that this was a waste of Bale’s talent. He/she didn’t compare him to Depp though.

Oh and about Biehn I think you can resume everything to a single word: envy. I only saw Biehn in 5 action movies and his characters never demanded that much acting anyway. 3 of those 5 movies were Cameron’s by the way. He was Cameron’s pet until he was kicked out and due to lack of talent his career ended in TMZ…. hahaha! It seems Cameron changed him for Worthington now.

And speaking of Worthington… One of my fears towards T4 is about his character. The way McG talks it seems that he is the center character of the movie, not John Connor. I hope this is a wrong impression.

“Isn’t Depp supposed to play the Mad Hatter in the Alice and Wonderland flick?” Yes, and I saw a photo of Depp in character in some site. Don’t remember where now, I will search and tell you about it. You must see it, its hilarious. He’s looking like a drag queen. Overdone again in make-up. tsk tsk

@Jersey
Of course you must be registered in the baleheads forum aren’t you? Whats your nick there?
I wasn’t. I did register now. I usually dont like forums like that for fear of staying too much time in front of the computer… I do that enough already. Gosh. I hope not to get addicted….
Stupid question: why do they ask “are you human?” ??? Of course… me and my bad mouth (fingers in this case). I answered “I’m a bipedal hominid primate” and wasn’t accepted. The “yes” did it. I wanted to put “alien” but thought twice…. Why do you have to be human? (ok dont answer that)

@Lilian

“And speaking of Worthington… One of my fears towards T4 is about his character. The way McG talks it seems that he is the center character of the movie, not John Connor. I hope this is a wrong impression.”

I’ve got the same impression.

@Lilian

LOL!!! Are you human?? No, I’m a dog that knows how to type. That is a crazy question. No, I’m not registered in the forum. Horrors, right? How/where do I do that? I do have a nick on other sites when I blog, it’s “papasmurf”, so if you see that, it’s usually me. Sometimes, I use “Jersey”, but hardly ever. However, I have seen in some instances where someone else is using papasmurf. Darn. I understand about getting addicted. I’m addicted to this site. Everyday I’m on it. (smile) I can’t help it! It’s the best site that I have found out there for CB fans. It’s nicely done, tastefully done, not all jumbled up like some of them out there. I think I’m behind on the time zone, though. I always come in on the tail end of the conversations. LOL

>>He/she said the character of Purvis was underdeveloped and that this was a waste of Bale’s talent. He/she didn’t compare him to Depp though.<>The way McG talks it seems that he is the center character of the movie, not John Connor. I hope this is a wrong impression.<<

MCG has talked so much about everything, that we really should know the whole movie by now. But, I understand how you feel. However, I don’t think he is going to upstage CB in anyway. Based on what I saw in the trailer, I think they are giving Worthington too much credit, in my opinion. I’m not saying he is a bad actor, I think he is a good one, but I don’t think he is as strong as CB is. I think Worthington’s character, Marcus, is a pivotal role, indeed, we already know that he is a terminator/human thanks to MCG, and again thanks to MCG, I think something is going to happen to him. But, I think the only reason they are trying to hype him up, or his character, is because they need to, or it will only be a one man show with just CB carrying the billing. Which it is anyway.

LOL about Biehn. I almost spit out my coffee about that statement about his career ending with TMZ. Poor sap. I heard he was Cameron’s pet, too. Someone else said the exact same thing on another post. Except they called him a talentless hack with a receeding hairline. Lack of talent and professionalism in my opinion. I had some respect for him, but what I had flew out the window when he opened his mouth on TMZ. Bum. You said it right, he is envious of CB.

Poor Depp. He is so confused about manly roles. Why??? Isn’t the Mad Hatter, doing an impression of Willy Wonka doing an impression of Edward Scissorshands doing an impression of Barber Street doing an impression of Jack Sparrow doing an impression of Johnny Depp? Bad wittle me. Tee Hee.

I think I posted this elsewhere, but Depp is supposed to be in talks to do a remake of The Three Stooges as Moe. And people say he is better than CB. Give me a freaking break. Among other things, CB could teach him how to pick (manly) better movie roles. Someone posted that Depp must have a clause in his contract that states that he must wear eyeliner constantly. He wears it even when he is not on set. Interesting.

@Lilian

I did something wrong in my above post. I accidently deleted something. OOPS! I was commenting on CB’s Purvis character. Basically, what I said was that I hope that they corrected, and re-developed his character a bit more. That was a rough draft that she saw. But, I heard about that also. They may have done that, though, because CB is such a strong actor, as not to out-shine Depp. Which, in my opinion, is easy to do with an actor such as CB. Depp does well on screen by himself, but when he is paired with a heavy weight, like CB, he is out of his element, and it shows. There is no way Depp would be able to handle Terminator Salvation against CB.

@Elena

I missed your post somehow. LOL It was sandwiched in among the others.

CB is used to playing different roles, bouncing around from independent to blockbuster and visa versa. Depp isn’t. This is a totally different role for him to play than what he is use to playing. I wonder was it hard for him to play? I also wonder what he and Mann got into it about?

I like what you said about CB’s charisma/strength. He does have that, doesn’t he? Okay, you guys know me, I’m going to start giggling now. May the typos commence….

@Jersey
“I’m addicted to this site. Everyday I’m on it. (smile) I can’t help it! It’s the best site that I have found out there for CB fans” Me too. It IS the BEST CB site around, no doubt. THANKS ANGELIC!! And I’m totally addicted. I come here everyday too, many times more than once. In the end I don’t think I will have time to the Baleheads forum… I dont have that much time free and I prefer to spend it here!!

About the Purvis character: I really think it is a flaw from the story and I doubt it will be fixed for the final product. I read someone commenting about the original story (the book) and he/she said that Purvis was poorly developed on it. So the movie can’t be much better. The story centers in Dillinger, not Purvis, so…

As for Biehn … “I had some respect for him, but what I had flew out the window when he opened his mouth on TMZ. ” Exactly, me too. I liked him in Cameron’s movies… but I think he sucked in the others. Anyway, the little respect I had died after this. He’s probably angry that McG didn’t even think in calling him to make a cameo in the new Terminator movies. McG already talked excitedly about Robert Patrick, Arnold and Hamilton, and didn’t even mention him…. hes probably pissed that hes losing an opportunity to “come back from the dead”… you know what I mean. Humm… I actually looked at his filmography in IMDB. Looks like hes not so dead afterall but I didn’t see any of his movies, and it seems all of them suck anyway (a lot of tv stuff and cameos).

I found the picture of Depp as the mad hatter! I’m sure the first time that I saw it wasn’t in the link that I’m giving here because this is a site that I didn’t even know existed until I searched for the picture. But well… go here: http://icydk.com/2008/11/17/first-photo-of-johnny-depp-as-the-mad-hatter-in-tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland/ and get scared … or laugh hysterically. Some people in the posts said that he looked like Helena Bonham-Carter. I think he looks like a gay voodoo doll.

And why would anyone think about making a Three Stooges movie??? Boy… that’s lack of creativity.

@Lilian

Well. Depp strikes again doesn’t he? Not what I expected, but then again….I should’ve expected it. I’m so used to CB and his well choiced manly, handsome roles. I was quite shocked. I’m even more shocked by the comments of Depp’s fans. They are truly down to the bone fans aren’t they? Even when Depp looks like a total idiot in that getup, and they KNOW he does, they are going to say he looks fantastic. And they can’t wait to see the movie. This is going up against CB in Public Enemies? No wonder people are saying that Depp doesn’t have the acting chops to go against CB. All they have to do is look at that picture, and he will lose all credibility as a manly actor. CB is a manly actor. He isn’t a wuss. If you are going up against him on screen, or in private for that matter, you can’t be a pansy….or a Mad Hatter. Sorry had to throw that in there. Depp loves those……gayish roles with makeup.

I think you hit the nail on the head with Biehn. I didn’t realize it, until you said it, but you are right. MCG didn’t say much, if anything at all, about Biehn, like he did the other previous characters in the Terminator series. He probably is a sore cry baby. Big baby. He probably looks at CB, and sees the body and the good looks, the full head of hair, (had to go there) the acting chops, the bada** persona, which actually hasn’t hurt him, but helped him in some cases now, the way women just adore him, and his loyal fan base, and he probably wants to be him. People then, get consumed with jealousy and start bad mouthing people just because they want what the other has. Biehn had his day….he needs to get over it.

Well, I guess for Purvis, it can’t be helped if the character hasn’t been developed in neither the book nor the movie. However, I think CB will still give a dynamic performance with whatever they give him. Hopefully, the critics will recognize the fact that his character has not been developed and won’t hold it against him as an actor. I’m curious, and I’ve said it before, on how Depp is going to stand up to CB on screen. Depp does well by himself, but with a heavyweight such as CB knocking on his door, I wonder how he will do? He won’t be able to hide behind loads of makeup on this one. Dillinger was a man’s man. He was tough. So was Purvis. We all believe that CB can pull his role, of course, but can Depp?

I did join the forum. Lovely ladies there. I’m so green, don’t know what I’m doing yet, and like you, I think I like it here. Not to say I don’t like the forum, because I do, but I know my buddies here. Everyone is nice there, but I don’t know how much time I will be on it. The forum has so many things to do, I get confused. LOL I’m afraid I’m going to do something wrong, and get booted off of it.

@Jersey
Gayish roles with make-up…. (LOL) You defined it perfectly. Boy, after that one nothing will surprise me. I wonder who is the weirdest, Depp or Burton, to create that thing or to accept to play it… you know, this habit of strange make-up is the reason why people say Depp would be a good Joker. My goodness, it would be a gay Joker, for sure.

I wonder if someday McG calls Biehn to play a part in a Terminator movie (unlikely) how he would talk with CB. Ha! Biehn would have to eat his shoes. I would want to be the proverbial fly and look at his face… hehe

I have no doubt CB will be a perfect Purvis, and people already are recognizing it. Those who watched the raw cut did. From what I’ve heard CB and Depp don’t have much onscreem time together, but I’m curious to see that either. But don’t fool yourself, the Depp fanatics will praise Depp no matter how bad he is. After reading a post of someone saying that he was beautiful as the mad hatter I don’t doubt it! LOL I’m curious about what the critics will say. The majority like Depp, but if he acts badly they will talk. But I’m sure they will recognize CBs talent. I think they will praise CB and Crudup too.

I joined the forum, but didn’t have time yet to actually go there… but I know how you feel. I will not leave here.

@Lilian

Okay we will buzz around together. The two proverbial flies swarming around. LOL Biehn would have to eat his shoes. No way would he talk to CB in any way, other than with respect. Of course, CB would talk to him with respect….unless Biehn got on his nerves. It is known that CB doesn’t like people (male or female) who think too highly of themselves. Did you ever see that interview of TDK, when the wrestler was interviewing him, and CB was clearly annoyed by him because the wrestler was sooooo arrogant? Priceless.

I have no doubt with CB in PE, unfortunately, he is only in a supporting role, and we probably won’t see much of him. But, some of his yumminess is better than none. As far as Depp is concerned, time will tell.

I want to see PE, but I think I want to see Terminator Salvation more. Only because CB is the actual star in this movie, and because I think this will boost CB up from the “rant” episode, and ram all that “hate” from everyone back down their throats. I hope the movie will do well for CB and for MCG.

@Lilian and Jersey

Hey girls, maybe it’s because I’m fond of this place , the forum is a very nice place but nothing compared to here.
I joined a month ago but I left my very first message there only last week (my nickname is Elena – no originality – so if you like, come there and say hello to me). They are all nice and I found out there is an International fan forum into it. So I left some messages in the Italian section.
It is huge and full of sections and by now I feel a stranger there, you know I’m a CB fan but I’m not so deep into it as they are, they know all, they comment all, I’m reading some of their posts and I usually find it hard to reply, maybe it’s just because I’m new. Moreover I haven’t so much time to spend there, But it’s a very nice place, Baleheads are nice, you should try to leave a message there and see what happens

@Elena

I’m already there. See if you can find me. I’m not using my name. I’m not there alot, I’m a newbie, and like you, I feel like a stranger. But, everyone seems very nice and friendly. I comment on some things, but not many. I read mostly. You are better than me, however, you can quote an entire passage from one of his movies. I can’t do that. I’m too busy staring to remember his lines. LOL I saw your name there, saw you were from Italy, and I smiled. I knew it was you.

@Jersey
You are better than me, however, you can quote an entire passage from one of his movies.
I saw your name there, saw you were from Italy, and I smiled. I knew it was you

now you know I’m slightly mad Listen, Christian is the best English teacher in the world. To improve my English I usually watch movies in English, with English subtitles, using headphones (not to miss even a word), and you know I’m fond of Mr.Bale’s voice, so I ended up knowing his lines by heart. I can quote almost all 3:10 to Yuma and The Prestige. But I’m great also quoting Batman Begins and TDK. I’m a bit mental. LOL

Anyway my dear, I got ya on the forum LOL …. see ya here and there. I’m not going to leave this place for the forum, I’m too attached to it.

@Elena

Good. I’m glad you won’t leave here. I like the forum, but I think I will always be more attached here, my “first love” I suppose. More intimate. Do you know what I mean? The forum is nice, but sometimes overwhelming to me. I guess because I’m not a bigtime blogger of sorts. Just a newbie. Also, I don’t have a lot of time to pour into it, so I’d rather spend most of my time here. Angelic does such a wonderful job here. I also like talking with you guys. Met a lot of nice people here. There are so many topics on the forum, I can’t keep up with them all. (grin)

@Jersey

Yes I know what you mean, that’s the same for me.